tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398250808488627384.post5562166846277741048..comments2024-03-22T13:57:00.805-04:00Comments on Stomp Off: Bobby Scott: Setting the Record StraightChris Albertsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12056345320709233401noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398250808488627384.post-23301466531260962522018-01-13T00:18:40.450-05:002018-01-13T00:18:40.450-05:00Thank you, Jim. Lil loved the Ray Charles' ren...Thank you, Jim. Lil loved the Ray Charles' rendering of "Just For a Thrill," which revived her old tune and gave her income a sizable boost.Chris Albertsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12056345320709233401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398250808488627384.post-46504687699564244832018-01-13T00:11:42.434-05:002018-01-13T00:11:42.434-05:00Thanks for this very informative piece, which I fo...Thanks for this very informative piece, which I found poking around for personnel on a vintage Bobby Scott CD I just bought. My introduction to him was "Joyful Noises," a wonderful LP that I found in my college years (the early '60s). The writing knocked me out! Many years later I learned in a piece about Prez (maybe by Gene Lees?) that "Bobby Socks" had spent time under his wing. <br /><br />Further in the ghosting department, a tribute video to Bob Brookmeyer produced for his memorial service noted that he (Brookmeyer) had ghosted classic arrangements for Ray Charles that are credited to Ralph Burns. "Just For A Thrill" and "Alabamy Bound" were specifically cited. Jim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07346436302753866543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398250808488627384.post-12040661823965979742014-10-16T17:43:29.272-04:002014-10-16T17:43:29.272-04:00Thank you Chris for a great post. I'm a long ...Thank you Chris for a great post. I'm a long time Bobby fan. I find it interesting that he writes almost as eloquently as he was able to perform musically. I'm sorry you didn't get your chance to break bread with him.Riley-Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17256306113371013164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398250808488627384.post-61097820218990361852014-10-16T17:41:23.648-04:002014-10-16T17:41:23.648-04:00Jeff I had heard about an autobiography as well. ...Jeff I had heard about an autobiography as well. I also would be very interested in finding/reading it. Of course it'd be wonderful if that music were released as well.Riley-Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17256306113371013164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398250808488627384.post-6589463525999920502013-09-23T16:48:20.059-04:002013-09-23T16:48:20.059-04:00What people need are lists (a website?) of composi...What people need are lists (a website?) of compositions and arrangements with corrected credits. Not just of Scott but of all those "used" composers. Petterihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09403314056485637784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398250808488627384.post-22757944245987899112012-08-01T06:24:45.977-04:002012-08-01T06:24:45.977-04:00Thanks for this article, Chris. Quite a sad tale o...Thanks for this article, Chris. Quite a sad tale on the dark sides of music business. It's a shame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398250808488627384.post-42360664702162641642010-08-18T12:22:23.082-04:002010-08-18T12:22:23.082-04:00The following was posted to the Guest Book by Larr...The following was posted to the Guest Book by Larry Kart, because an attempt to posting it here was unsuccessful. It belongs here and is a significant adjunct to my original post—thank you, Larry.: <br /><br />Hi Chris -- Tried to post the following on the Bobby Scott thread this morning but wasn't able to:<br /><br />'Many thanks for this. Unless one shuns Fresh Sound albums on moral grounds, the best introduction to his work is "The Compositions of Bobby Scott" on that label. It collects his 1956 ABC-Paramount LP of that name (with tenorman John Murtaugh and baritonist Marty Flax) and two Bethlehem 10" LPs -- a NYC septet date from 1954, with Eddie Bert and Hal McKusick, and a 1955 LA nonet date, with Conte Candoli, Jimmy Giuffre, et al.<br /><br />'It's interesting how much some of the music on Scott's ABC date anticipates the folksy "Train and the River" groove that Giuffre would get into later on with his trio with Jim Hall and Palph Pena. Don't think this is matter of appropriation -- just two talented musicians whose sensibilities happened to rhyme. <br /><br />'There's also a rhyme between the clever, charmingly melodic writing and playing on the ABC date and that of LA-based tenorman Jack Montrose. In part that's because Montrose often used the same tenor-baritone front line, in part that's because the dry timbre and "talky" accentuation of the unheralded Murtaugh recalls Montrose. Again, probably just a rhyme in sensibilities.Chris Albertsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12056345320709233401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398250808488627384.post-29014184769666845142010-08-17T23:30:39.683-04:002010-08-17T23:30:39.683-04:00That's interesting, Jeff. Thanks for enriching...That's interesting, Jeff. Thanks for enriching my story. I'll have to dig up the tapes Bobby sent me.Chris Albertsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12056345320709233401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398250808488627384.post-72017101312110406772010-08-17T22:17:59.002-04:002010-08-17T22:17:59.002-04:00Dear Chris,
The situation of credits with regard ...Dear Chris,<br /><br />The situation of credits with regard to Quincy Jones has been a very popular subject among arranger/historians for years. I don't know if you ever heard the story about the Mancini/Jones album cover. Billy Byers wrote the arrangements, and the first pages of them with the titles of the tracks were photographed for the album cover. There was only one problem: all of the scores had Billy Byers' name on them, and the cover was never used. Supposedly Emile Charlap had a copy <br />in his office.<br /><br />Scott was an amazing talent, and according to my late friend Dick Sudhalter, wrote an autobiography before he died. I don't know if he ever finished it or not. Bobby's widow lend Dick a copy of it and asked him if anything could be <br />done with it. Dick said that it would need a lot <br />of editing, that it went off on religious <br />tangents. I wonder where that book is now. <br />I'd love to know where Bobby's music is now.<br /><br />Great posts as always,<br />Jeff SultanofJeff Sultanofnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398250808488627384.post-81065760773001203282010-08-14T08:49:18.543-04:002010-08-14T08:49:18.543-04:00Thank you, Ubu.
Melba was a beautiful, highly tal...Thank you, Ubu.<br /><br />Melba was a beautiful, highly talented person whom I feel privileged to have known.Chris Albertsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12056345320709233401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398250808488627384.post-27578217367682503922010-08-14T06:56:16.748-04:002010-08-14T06:56:16.748-04:00Thanks a lot for this thoughtful, and yes, beautif...Thanks a lot for this thoughtful, and yes, beautiful post.<br />Coincidentally I just listened to an album full with wonderful arrangements by Melba Liston, Elvin Jones' Atlantic release "And Then Again" (1965).ubuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345046048548176058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398250808488627384.post-78224884339308019222010-08-10T16:18:14.756-04:002010-08-10T16:18:14.756-04:00In Lil's case, I don't think it was simply...In Lil's case, I don't think it was simply a matter of paying someone else. Some music publishers had deals whereby the added "composer" was either one of them or someone with whom they had an arrangement, so to speak. As for Quincy, I am sure that was never about money—at least not directly—but credit has a way of translating into money, doesn't it? Of the names mentioned by Bobby Scott in his letter, who is more successful, materially, than Quincy? If his success rests on his music and that music really was someone else's....well? Do the math.Chris Albertsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12056345320709233401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398250808488627384.post-15556812573866364182010-08-10T13:36:15.984-04:002010-08-10T13:36:15.984-04:00Exciting behind the scenes story, good for Lil Har...Exciting behind the scenes story, good for Lil Hardin she knew how to handle this, just make me think of all those who were robed over the years.<br /><br />I think Hardin's case is about robing money from an artist and giving it to other people, the case of Jones is robing credits for sure, and I'm curious whether money as well, did it mean Jones took the royalties checks from then and on?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398250808488627384.post-29092693140300049602010-08-10T01:29:15.892-04:002010-08-10T01:29:15.892-04:00Chris,
Your last couple of post have only reinfor...Chris,<br /><br />Your last couple of post have only reinforced what I have started to learn on my own. The true Artist of Music create out a desire to express the music within themselves. And with that passion they receive a gift unto themselves. Bobby Scott appears to have found his Music.<br /><br />PS. My Mom went to High School with another teen singer of the 50's... Johnny Tillotson who has had a long career. Got any stories in your vault about him. She would be thrilled.KD Mathewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01939818947733095034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398250808488627384.post-13732639958206375232010-08-08T15:47:11.195-04:002010-08-08T15:47:11.195-04:00Good question, Ted. Actually, I removed the top on...Good question, Ted. Actually, I removed the top one because it came from a pesky impostor who haunts blogs. I removed the second one because it had been a reply to said pesky impostor. :)Chris Albertsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12056345320709233401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398250808488627384.post-17276998588002012962010-08-08T12:48:31.828-04:002010-08-08T12:48:31.828-04:00Hmmm. Are they 'comments' if they are not...Hmmm. Are they 'comments' if they are not there? Is this the equivalent of a tree falling in an empty forest?Ted O'Reillyhttp://www.tedoreilly.comnoreply@blogger.com